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I'm New be Nice

hey all!!

new guy here, strongly thinking od getting a bedford CF and thought i'd talk to some people in the know :)

i'm really hoping to make it a project (which judging by the condiiton of most of them this is probably a good thing )

just wondered, I know most people opt for the V8 mod, i'm really not looking to pull my face off with speed I want it to be a usable van so wondered if anyone had any other engine swap ideas? i don't really want to be cutting the floor or bulkhead so something that can slot in easy would be quite high on the list. the idea will be for it to be LPG to save the pennies...this van has to run cheap.

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Wed 19 Jan 2011 @ 14:16 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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Vauxhall slant engine (CF1 & Facelift models to 1984) can have valve seats for LPG fitted & the 2.3 litre version has plenty of power when in good going order.

GM (Opel) 2-litre engine (CF2 models 1984-87) should be ok on LPG as is with being designed for unleaded petrol & isn't too bad on pulling power.

If you want to slot in something else then a CF2 will be easier to convert with having symmetrical engine mount posts on the front axle beam & also detachable front panel. Short wheelbase models come with front disc brakes too.

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Wed 19 Jan 2011 @ 14:37 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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grand cheers for the reply :)

well this is what i've been offered:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldbart/sets/72157625418056889

i'm pretty tempted and have it as a toy to work on and take things as slow as i want to. what do you reckon? he's asking £500 and it's moted and taxed
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Link comes up as 'private page'.

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Wed 19 Jan 2011 @ 22:42 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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I don't know what the price of LPG vs Diesel is in the UK..
The 2.3 Diesel is economic but slow, some people swap Frontera A engines in. Turbo inter-cooled 2.3 fit's with very little mods and give 100 HP.
I plan this swap in the future.
Any V8 swap will require cutting and welding to fit...
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Here are some Figures

outriding wrote:
I don't know what the price of LPG vs Diesel is in the UK..


I used to run a 2.5di Transit engine through a type 9 gearbox into a Salisbury axle on my old Bedford CF, on a run it would return 35 to the gallon. I now use a 2.3 slant, with a Laycock overdrive and a LPG conversion, which returns 19 to the gallon on LPG and 20 on petrol. Recently, we were working out what a 1000 mile trip would cost using the three different fuels and here are the figures:
LPG = 19mpg = 68.9p = £164.99
Petrol=20mpg = 124.9p = £284.14
Diesel=35mpg = 128.9p = £167.57

Hope this helps.

Rae & Ann

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Well this is the van I am very close to buying. Let me know your thoughts it's a 2ltr CF2 1987 with MOT till December and Tax till May so will keep me going whilst I work on it.

I don't think it looks too bad - apart from the green! but I want to paint my van anyway so can bare the green for a month or two.







he's asking £500 any thoughts?
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Ha, was interested in this one myself. Didn't proceed though as my own is in better condition so it defeated the object (the object being to buy a better condition van, obviously).

In terms of the price and whether its a good price or not... I don't thin that can be evaluated by anyone other than you. Your desire to own and run one, your skills and resources at maintaining it and keeping it running... the value of a slightly knackered old Bedford (they're mostly all slightly knackered, and all old, obviously) is intangible. Its not like its something that exists as a collectible on the classic car market, which has a collectible market value.

Pound for pound, an accountant would probably look at the van and say "not worth £10", but most people here would probably evaluate it with a bit more heart and soul and say "if its something you want and you know what to do with it, then its worth what's being asked". You'll find lots of help here plus tips, advice, a sympathetic ear, some risque jokes, and a strong sense of camerarderie (<Can't spell that) and you'll be saving a Bedford van from oblivion.

I love mine personally. I paid a lot for it, but I'd probably have paid double if I had had the funds and the price was higher.

Mine has completely knackered panels down the left hand side, but the rest is handsome. Without fail, everywhere I go in it, people comment on its rarity and many have fond memories of Bedfords. Everyone likes them. Its quite an inspired choice of van... its cooler than a VW because every trendy halfwit Jamie Oliver wannabee has a VW. Its rarer than a Transit (plus a better drive by far) and its got that classic snub-nosed van shape that is so evocative of the Mk1/Mk2 era.

I say do it.

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Fri 21 Jan 2011 @ 11:10 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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Also, not sure you would need to switch the engine out. From what the seller told me, its all mechanically strong, and its been in his family for quite some time so he would know. My own van had been in the 'care' of the seller for a few weeks only, and it had no paperwork or history, so it was impossible to know what it had been through. I took a risk. This van seemed to me to be less of a risk.

Engine-wise, from memory its the same as mine, a 2.0litre Opel unit. Mine is strong and torquey, lively as vans go, and also not too bad on fuel... obviously its no match for a Smart car economy-wise but its no worse than a 2.0litre saloon car.

I'd stick with the original engine personally and spend your money on straightening out the bodywork instead.

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Fri 21 Jan 2011 @ 11:21 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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tim thanks for the vote of confidence

yea i'm pretty set on the van, i'm actually going to look at a lock-up today so i have room to work on her, I walk to work so i don't need it in working condition right away so i have all the time in the world to get it how i want it.

the whole cameraderie (i can't spell either ) is what i'm after i don't want to be a face in the croud with the same ol' van as everyone else i want something different and if i can save it from the scrappy that really appeals to me.

if i cant do it myself then at least i can say i;ve tried and that's important too.

as to the engine, must say i agree with you he seems very confident in it so i may as well not bother BUT after the bodywork is where i want it I think i'll look to get a bot more power out of the same engine i.e try to get at least 100bhp as i do need it to tow later down the line so it's needs some grunt.

hoping to make her LPG at some point too so if i can make the engine run smooth and economical, couple that with LPG i should be onto a winner and should be able to run it quite cheaply.

well i'm going to get this van at the end of febuary so will have to keep you all posted on the progress of my little project :)
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